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11 April 2008 @ 05:01 pm
writerinadrawer : round 2.01  

Team Pterodactyl:
Theme: Boy's Night Out - you may only use MALE characters from Torchwood (or male original characters) in your story.
Added Feature: Your story must take place outside of the Hub,
Word Max: 250 words.  Excluding headers, your story must be 250 words or less.

My entry for the first round of writerinadrawer's second round was "Till we ain't strangers anymore", and focused on Ianto and PC Andy meeting in a gay bar Ianto had gone to with Jack and Owen for an apparent 'boys night out'. Ianto openly propositions Andy.

My feedback for this fic sits at:

"Score: -1
I think this is slightly OOC of Ianto. Where I can believe Jack would take him to a strip club, I do not believe he'd be that *outright* with Andy.
"

Now, I'll be the first off the mark to agree that Ianto comes across as a far more confident character than the likes of which we've been privy to in the tv series (though of course, if we took "Fragments" into consideration, this point could be argued ;D) thus far. But you know what, I like Ianto like this. I adore writing him as this minx-like character who knows what he wants and isn't afraid to go out and grab it. I don't feel it's necessarily out of character for him, but it's definitely not how most other people are prepared to view him. 

I realise however, that- having made it through round one- I shall have to watch how I'm portraying my characters. The voters are definitely more critical on these entries than they perhaps would be on any random fic update and I don't really want to give them a reason to vote my future entries into a drawer! 

Anyone want to throw their own two cents in and tell me what you thought about the fic? Go on, I can take the criticism!! ;)

edt: to add, that they weren't actually at a strip club as the feedback claims. They were just in a gay bar.

 
 
mood: curiouscurious
music: Man of La Mancha (I Don Quixote) Brian stokes Mitchell
 
 
 
slapdash.: John Barrowman.pinkamethyst on April 11th, 2008 04:35 pm (UTC)
Ianto is an interesting character in that we don't really know what he's like. In Fragments we saw him basically doing whatever the hell he needed to do to get what he wanted. In Cyberwoman, he manipulates the situation to save Lisa, which isn't the behaviour of a shy, quiet coffee boy.

We don't know what he was like in London: he may well have been outgoing and confident and up for shagging random blokes. Like any normal person, Ianto can't be simply put into one box with one label. He can't simply be 'shy' 'quiet' 'coffee boy' and 'Jack's shag'. He's shown that he will stand up for himself, and so I reckon it wouldn't be out of character for him to proposition Andy like that. People need to remember that just because they see Ianto that way, that doesn't necessarily mean that he always has to be like that.

Well...that's my opinion, anyway. We all have our own views of characters. That's the fun of fanfic. :)
Campaspe: Torchwood \\ 2.05 \\ Caught!cs_whitewolf on April 11th, 2008 05:47 pm (UTC)
I am a firm believer that Ianto has many more faces than the ones we've been privy to. There are always glimpses of other sides to him that are seen, as you say, in episodes such as "Fragments" and "Cyberwoman". But we also get a look at his more daring side in scenes like the stopwatch proposition in "They Keep Killing Suzie", which leads me to want to explore his- as I like to call it- more 'minx-like' side.

Thank you very much for your opinion! Everyone views the characters differently, and I couldn't agree more that everyone needs to remember that their own personal view isn't the *only* view :)
__♥..Jemz-y Baby..♥__jemzamia on April 11th, 2008 04:39 pm (UTC)
Ugh from what I've heard nothing but miffedness/complaing from most of the Bunk Crew about writerinadrawer. It seems the mods take it WAY to seriuosly so don't worry about it hun :)

You're totally right about Ianto having a confidence in him. AND HIM BEING A LIL MINX IS TOTALLY FUN TO WRITE! It makes me smile so much both when I read and write him in that way because it can easily be assumed from what we see on TV :D
Campaspe: Torchwood \\ 2.06 \\ Ianto & Marthacs_whitewolf on April 11th, 2008 05:48 pm (UTC)
I don't think it's the mods who are taking things too seriously, mostly it's the people reviewing/voting that are looking for utter perfection (which to be honest, is something we hardly ever get in normal posted fics!) but that's okay, it's a challenge, and though there's no pleasing everyone, it's fun to try! XD

PWN FOR MINXY IANTO!! For he is awesome and should be let out to play more ;)
__♥..Jemz-y Baby..♥__jemzamia on April 11th, 2008 07:09 pm (UTC)
Ah I dunno who does what. I just avoid it coz I find writerinadrawer scary LOL

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PERFECTION PEOPLE! ARG

*unlocks Minx!Ianto from chains*

I have the fic bug lately but I have no bunnies :( Well one but I'll prolly finish that tonight. Throw me a carrot?
Campaspe: Doctor Who \\ 9 Wanna see my Tardis?cs_whitewolf on April 11th, 2008 07:22 pm (UTC)
JACKS RAVING SPERM!!!

or, failing that ::glare:: how about... Minx!Ianto ;) being all minx like in the hub whilst the others are there. How minxy is up to you! muha.
__♥..Jemz-y Baby..♥__jemzamia on April 11th, 2008 08:15 pm (UTC)
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! YEH

OOH nice idea

*finishes currnt fic like mad woman*
_stolendreams_ on April 11th, 2008 04:42 pm (UTC)
Half the problem this round is that there are so many good writers I think that the voters are having to be that much more critical to pick out the ones they want in a drawer.
I hope those drawers are as comfortable as they were last year!

How did you do with your week 2 entry? I found that hard.

I have to admit before I give you feedback that I was useless this week and didn't manage to vote at all because I couldn't pick a favourite or least favourite.

I didn't think your Ianto was OOC. I think we've seen that kind of side of him many times but the problem is we only see it for a moment. Fragments is the longest example. But we gets hints of that side of him in TKKS when it's him who suggests stopwatch sex to Jack over Suzie's dead body. And in Adrift his whole attitude towards naked hide and seek. And there is a hint of it coming out in Something Borrowed when he and Jack are discussing inside leg measurements.
Jack is always going to be the more confident one in the Jack/Ianto relationship. The man will flirt with anything after all. But with Ianto/Andy I can definitely see Ianto going after what he wants because Andy is much less likely to make the first move.

(oh and I love you for writing Ianto/Andy)
Campaspe: Torchwood \\ Blindfoldedcs_whitewolf on April 11th, 2008 05:58 pm (UTC)
I'm sure our drawers will be upgraded from last year, especially since we're seasoned participants now ;) we get priority coffee breaks and visits from Ianto don't you know! heh

And you're probably right. There are alot more (good) writers this round and I think that will make it harder on voters when they're making their decisions. I'm not upset at all over my feedback, and to an extent I can agree with it, but I'm very glad that not everyone else does because a Ianto that is prepared to step out of his percieved skin, is a Ianto I want to play around with ;) heh

Thanks for pointing out the TKKS and Adrift (etc) moments- they are key examples of minxy!Ianto, only glimpses right enough, but they're there! And they just proove that Ianto isn't just the emo/part time shag/background character that the other half of fandom seems to think he is :) plus he looks good with Andy, and that's all that matters!!

As for this weeks entry? I had an idea of what I wanted to write, and was really quite excited about the whole idea, but when it came to actually writing it I couldn't get the 'voice' of my chosen character right. I played around with it but eventually just had to submit (today, no less!) and I'll just have cross everything that it's recieved okay. I may get voted out depending on how people percieve the "Series One" episode I chose to write to!

How did yours go?? I won't ask for details (though I'm dying to know what everyone wrote! lol) but I envy your team for getting to play with series two!!
_stolendreams_ on April 11th, 2008 09:17 pm (UTC)
I hope we've got the upgraded drawers. Let the new writers have ours from last time we'll have the nice ones XD

Well there are more writers so therefore logically there had to be more good writers (well you'd hope so anyway!) but yes the writing standard does seem to be overall better this time round so we're going to have to work harder I suspect!

This weeks was so hard. I went through six or seven different ideas from all different view points before I got to the one I ended up submitting. It was incredibly hard to find the characters voices for me this time, any of them.
I was a little worried the one I'd chosen would be written by too many people but half the entries are up and so far it doesn't look too bad.
Just going to have to keep my fingers crossed on this one I think.
beewhimsicalbeewhimsical on April 11th, 2008 05:29 pm (UTC)
I was just happy there was Ianto/Andy other than my own entry - it's my guilty pleasure at the moment ;)

I really liked it. I don't think it was too OOC - I just saw it as you exploring the new, more confident side of Ianto that we've seen recently. If it's any conciliation, my feedback said pretty much the same thing; Ianto/Andy is too OOC and I don't think it would ever happen
Campaspe: Torchwood \\ Earpiececs_whitewolf on April 11th, 2008 06:01 pm (UTC)
:D There were a couple Ianto/Andy entries, to which I must admit I was surprised but also very pleased about! They are a very lush pairing for sure.

And thank you! I'm really glad most others are seeing the "more cofident side of Ianto" because we really have been getting glimpses of him and it's about time we let him out to play a bit ;)

I wonder if someone just has an agenda against Ianto/Andy! One of the other writers who wrote for the pairing got the same sort of feedback about them being OOC. Like Andy being a lapdancer for Ianto is unbelievable! ;)