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17 January 2008 @ 12:18 am
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang - did it rock your world?  

So. Torchwood. It's been a long, hard wait guys. We flailed. We failed. We despaired of ever getting to this moment. But it came. Finally, Torchwood is back and looking so much better than before. Episode One "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" was full of that little thing called "squee!". It had action and whit and team dynamics ftw. It had Jack back. And sexual tension. Jealousy. And the return of that rather infamous stopwatch.

Could it get any better that that? What more could a fanperson want? 

It was all going so well...

and then they had to ruin everything by turning Jack into an even bigger manhor, making Ianto look like the rebound shag, and keeping Gwen the girlhor we all hoped she'd not be this season because you know, that ring on your finger hun actually means something. 

Alas. Nothing dampened my watching of the epiosde, (aside from a few angry hisses here and there) to be fair. It was only afterward once I could think with a bit more coherency and a lot less flailsquee that I happened upon a theory I'd really rather wished I hadn't. 

We all know Jack/Ianto is going to be focus of this series. Anyone who doesn't has been living under a rock for sure. However we know also that there is "something" between Jack and Gwen. As much as most of us hate to admit it, it looks as though that something will be built upon. Oh, not this series, but I fear that should we get a third it'll be move over Ianto, Gwen's coming through! 

Why do I think this? Well, anyone else heard the rumour that Rhys is supposed to die at the end of this series? Oh yes. Gwen might be playing the faithful (in body at least) girlfriend this series, but without her man in the picture anymore? And with RTD being a big dirty hor for Gwen himself? And for Jack/Gwen? Yeah... hope of everylasting Jack/Ianto suddenly looks so... unlasting. 

Still. There is a brightside. We have a whole series of Jack/Ianto to keep out fanhearts beating! To keep the flail and squee alive! 

mood: apatheticapathetic
Georgie: Torchwood - Jack/Ianto (series 2 kiss)indiefairy on January 17th, 2008 01:01 am (UTC)
I'm just focusing on the good Jack/Ianto is official and canon not that we didn't get that from EoD and the Jack/Gwen shippers cannot deny that the relationship exists anymore.

I really can't believe that Gwen is still after Jack even with that ring on her finger, FFS Gwen! if you Love Jack, stop messing Rhys around. Though you know she shouldn't do that cos then Jack/Gwen would most definately happen.

::clings:: you've made me all depressed now :(

Campaspe: Torchwood \\ Peek-a-boo!cs_whitewolf on January 17th, 2008 05:28 pm (UTC)
I've managed to un-depress myself! ::snuggles you::

I realise that everyone is a little bit in love with Jack, so I shan't begrude Gwen this. I realise also that Jack is a little bit inlove with everyone else too, so I shan't begrudge him his moment with Gwen. I realise that no matter what underlying Jack/Gwen dynamics there may be going on, the scene between Jack and Ianto in the office was genuine. Jack was awkward but real with his asking Ianto out and Ianto was just as awkard and real in accepting.

Jack and Ianto is OTP and we get it for a whole bloody series at the *very least*! X) what's to be depressed about? Theories be damned. This series is ours!

darketernal09: Jantodarketernal09 on January 17th, 2008 05:53 am (UTC)
wow, u've really depressed me. I mean, yeah, I "wtf" *Seethe seethe anger* at the Gwen/Jack scene (and her almost last request), but I was just thinking "well, that's the end of that. Jack asked Ianto out, he said yes, they freakin KISS next episode (and hopefully many times many episodes after that) and now that I've read ur theory (which, btw will probably prove to be true it Rhys really does die, although I'd hope Jack would be better than that), u take the squee away ;;
Campaspe: Torchwood \\ John Woo Style!cs_whitewolf on January 24th, 2008 11:46 pm (UTC)
::smishes:: Sorry for the drepressingness! But I've managed to cheer myself up if that's any use to you? X)

I figure now, what the hell! We're getting our Janto NOW and that's all that matters. Why worry about the 'what if's'?

::feels bad; hands you more squee::
Mithrial: unwrap (limnoreia)mithrial on January 17th, 2008 03:17 pm (UTC)
I came away with the impression that there was just too much suggestive fancying going on. It was as if they decided to sideline the plot and focus only on the flirting. (I can't use the word 'relationships' as that would need more depth).

Like you say, Gwen does not improve as a character when she comes on to Jack while engaged to Rhys. (The character who's put up with more crap than anyone, and is still loyal.)

Jack is flirting with everyone. Like he's competing with John for sexual promiscuity - bar the poodle.

Poor Ianto. He's the other loyal character too. It does feel like he and Rhys are going to pay hard for being decent and deep feeling. And I doubt us fans will cheer the writers if they do that.

I'm pleased the plot had more laughs, but it seems at the expense of meaningful relationships.

Toshiko and Owen stand the best chance.

Edited at 2008-01-17 03:47 pm (UTC)
Campaspe: Torchwood \\ Fucken Gun PWNcs_whitewolf on January 24th, 2008 11:59 pm (UTC)
there was just too much suggestive fancying going on

Much agreement there. But... I'm going to think positively. Maybe it was just because John was around that Jack felt he had to flirt with everything. Rewatching, even though Gwen did seem to still be into Jack, I can watch that moment as a goodbye between them. His asking Ianto out later on, though maybe not tactful in the right-after-THAT-scene sense, came across as a really genuine moment which means that Jack *does* have feeling for Ianto that hopefully- if it doesn't last- will come to a decent ending. (As in *not* with Jack dumping Ianto for Gwen/anyone else at the drop of a hat).

Still, I guess only watching and seeing for ourselves is going to give us the answers we want! And yeah, the series in it's own way is a big improvement on last years. If anything, I'm watching for the fun and squee and hawt man loving ;)

::has significantly cheered herself up now::
Mithrial: bodywork  (limnoreia)mithrial on January 26th, 2008 12:08 pm (UTC)
Ianto and Jack will work it out by the end of the series. oh yeah!
It looks about as sea-worthy as a rubber duck!harem_ent on January 17th, 2008 06:47 pm (UTC)
Think positively, my darling. If all else goes to hades in a handbasket (which it is likely to do) we will always have each other. and FANFICTIONY PORN!
Campaspe: Mood \\ Woecs_whitewolf on January 24th, 2008 11:48 pm (UTC)
Yes! That's the key- positivity!

And if all else fail their is still US and the FANFICTIONY PORN!!!

It looks about as sea-worthy as a rubber duck!harem_ent on January 26th, 2008 07:48 pm (UTC)
Which are, as we know, the most important things IN THE WHOLE WORLD!